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World-Union of St. Bernard-Clubs (WUSB)

The minutes of the judges-meeting

MINUTES of the delegates-meeting on 06/02/2000

in Bagnara di Romagna/Italy

Beginning: 14.35 o'clock - end: 17.00 o'clock

Present are:

Wolfgang Ketzler, President, Germany 1
Erika Kalscheuer, 1st Secretary Germany 1
Yvonne Bijlsma Australia (NSW)
Stan Zielinski Australia (WA)
Ann de Laet Belgium
Herma Lautenschläger Broeckart Belgium
Inge Lise Opstrup Denmark
Lause Nielsen Denmark
Tobias Pross Germany 2
Tanja Müller Germany 2
Maureen Gwilliam Great Britain 1
Pat Muggleton Great Britain 2
Taina Nyard Finland
Dr. Giovanni Morsiani Italy
Dinora Morsiani Italy
Romy Prim Luxembourg
Jean Prim, Vice-President Luxembourg
Bram Vervoorn Netherlands
Jan van de Belt Netherlands
Katharina Heiberg Norway
Liv Roe Hagen Norway
Max Heide Austria
Christine Heide Austria
Carlos Vieira Rodrigues Portugal
Nuno Canellas d'Assuncao Sousa Portugal
Charles Cuenaud Switzerland
Rolands Hans, Treasurer Switzerland
Josep Martin i Barbara Spain
Julian Hernandez Spain
Otakar Vondrous The Czech Republic
Karoly Kozma Hungaries
Dr. Istvan Acs Hungaries
Ray M. Horlings, 2nd Secretary USA
Robert E. Bostrum USA

Excused absent:

Myriam Theodon (B), Carl-Otto Mastrup (DK), Hermann Evers (G 2), Hans Golverdingen (NL), Elly M. LARSON (N)

Present guests:

Honorary-president Peter Schmidlin (Ch), Austin Long-Doyle, Ann Long-Doyle (Irland), Kevin Young (South Africa), Lesley Byles (GB), Gerald and Gloria Wallin (USA), Joan Zielinski (USA), Dr. Martin König (Ch), Kari Augestad (Sp), Kit Bostrom (USA), W. Harms (NL), Minnie Horlings (USA), R. v. Boven (NL), Marie-L. Löhr (G 1), Rudolf Thomann (Ch), Christine Wiederkehr (Ch), Bernhard Léger (Ch), Ariane Léger (Ch), Berith Ribbe (Sweden)

    1. Greeting and note of the delegate-numbers

    Wolfgang Ketzler greets the presents and thanks Dr. Giovanni Morsiani for the hospitality and that the meetings can take place in this rooms, that were established in honor of Dr. Antonio Morsiani. He reminds that the WUSB exists now since 33 years. The original goals: standardization of the type and of the standard are also current discussion-topics still today. New goals have come to it: health and character. These were accepted two years ago into the statutes of the WUSB. Wolfgang Ketzler asks urgently that all countries should be striving to put these goals into action.

    He greets the guests from South Africa and Ireland to the present-day meeting.

    2. Greeting-word of the Italian president Dr. Giovanni Morsiani

    Dr. Morsiani greets all delegates and guests and gives his joy expression that so many have found the way to Italy. He explains that the conference-venue is a foundation, that four years ago was founded to the commemoration of Dr. Antonio Morsiani gegründet wurde. This foundation has the goal to keep the memory of the old Barry-dogs. Besides it, it should be used for it to study the breed. Over 50 years of study are to be seen in these matters. Dr. Morsiani tells that he was 13 years old, when the WUSB was founded and that it is a big success, that 22 countries today are member of the WUSB. He wishes to see all countries of the world as a member in the WUSB.

    3. Minutes of Porto

    To item 11 Bram Vervoorn reminds, that it should be reported today of the work of the forum. A short discussion starts with the result that because of the long agenda today the report will be postboned to the next year in Germany.

    In this context Dr. Morsiani talks about the goals of the forum. He emphasizes again that all countries are loaded to the sessions as guests in friendship.

    In the English version of the delegates-minutes of Porto, it must be written right at the vote under item 8 : "Unanimously". It is a spelling mistake.

    Otherwise, the minutes were accepted by the delegates.

    Unanimously

    4. Report of the President and review on the last year

    Wolfgang Ketzler gives the meeting a short overview over the activities of the WUSB in the last year. There were much correspondence, e-mails and fax-mail as always.

    He reports that France has got in contact to the WUSB again. The President has been invited.

    He introduces to the meeting the new presidents in various clubs: Germany 1 - Peter Brieskorn, Finland - Terno Tassi, Netherlands - M. van de Veen, Norway - Anne Homble. One should report to problems in the clubs from Hungaries and Portugal later.

    Wolfgang Ketzler thanks the honorary-president Peter Schmidlin for his commitment and the support. Then he still talks about the alteration of the decision from Porto, in which it was called, that the WUSB-Show and -meetings should take place on two consecutively-following days. This sequence was altered in this year. That should be possible in future no longer.

    He thanks Jan van de Belt for his work as editor of the " Barry ". This thanks goes to Kari Augestad as well, without her would not exist the Barry in this form. Furthermore he notices that the judge-discussion in Porto was prepared and enforced contrary to the publication in the Barry by the WUSB-secretary Erika Janes-Kalscheuer.

    To the activities in the Internet, Wolfgang Ketzler notices that the Chats can be very beautiful however also be dangerous, because one can spread also wrong matters world-wide in a short time. In this connection, he makes clear that the illustrations of the judge-discussion in Denmark in 1998 are not the official standard-commentary of the WUSB. Until today there is nothing officially.

    A discussion takes place over the standard of the FCI and the American standard.

    Wolfgang Ketzler clarifies on the suggestion of Bob Bostrom once again that only judges can be chosen for the WUSB if they have taken part in the last three years in the judges-meeting at least once. The judges for 2001 are chosen today. Whoever is there today can therefore also be chosen.

    He asks the clubs once again to publish the minutes of the WUSB in its club-magazines so that all members get informations.

    In this connection Wolfgang Ketzler gives an explanation for the minutes to remarks in America:

    "The FCI-Standard is no " bastard " of the old Swiss standard but a development, who is considered in the FCI for necessary." He admonishes that such remarks are little helpful.

    Then, Wolfgang Ketzler still reports on some letters: In Ghana there are two St. Bernards. From Australia (eldest club), another proposition came on membership. His opinion is that we like to see Australia here, but that it would be a better solution to form there an umbrella organization as WUSB-Mitglied.

    From America, an invitation came to the club-show in October 2000.

    An issue went through the whole world: export from St. Bernards to Asia for the purpose of eating. Wolfgang Ketzler emphasizes that he would not like to question the culture of the countries, but that the biggest problems is the method of the kill. Stan Zielinski notices that is meant China and Korea in Asia mainly, Japan can be excluded largely.

    The message of the WUSB to the world is: " The World-Union of St. Bernhard-Clubs condemn the slaughter of dogs for meal ".

    Edgar Kientsch makes the suggestion to publish the " Barry International " in the Internet.

    At the end, Wolfgang Ketzler asks the future organizers of the WUSB to invite also the substitute-judges, because through sudden circumstances, illness or the like, a judge can be prevented.

    5. Reports of the secretaries

    no one

    6. Report the treasurer

    The current memberships of the clubs were handed over. The clubs in Hungary must be organized again. In Portugal, at the moment officially exists only one club.

    Roland Hans hands over the cash report. The cash report is accepted.

    Unanimously

    7. Report the editor " Barry International "

    Jan van de Belt tells that is still tried to publish the "Barry International" twice in the year. He points out it again that the magazine is sent by the editor only to the clubs and not to individual members. Furthermore, he asks to send in ads and pictures again. Without the participation of the clubs, breeders etc. the " Barry " cannot exist permanently in the future. He admonishes the slow payers finally to transfer the money.

    Wolfgang Ketzler affiliates the admonition and also appeals to send editorial contributions from all countries. A more repeatedly thanks goes to Kari Augestad.

    8. Report of the cash auditor and trust company

    The cash register was still tested in this year by the trust company. The cash auditors have controlled the books.

    9. Exoneration of the Board

    The executive was exonerated.

    Unanimously - 4 abstentions

    10. Elections

    30 delegates are entitled to vote. Mr. Dr. Giovanni Morsiani is elected as election-leaders.

    Unanimously

        10.1 President

        Single suggestion: Wolfgang Ketzler. He accepts the election.

        Result of the voting: unanimously with 1 abstention

        10.2 Vice-president

        Single suggestion: Jean Prim. He accepts the election.

        Result of the voting: unanimously

        10.3 1. Secretary

        Single suggestion: Erika Kalscheuer. She accepts the election.

        Result of the voting: unanimously

        10.4 Treasurer

        Single suggestion: Rolands Hans. He accepts the election.

        Result of the voting: 29 yes -, 1 no-voices

        10.5 2. Secretary

        The previous 2. Secretary Ray Horlings would like to run no longer. For his work his commitment until now the President pronounced a big thanks and acknowledgment. This was confirmed by big applause of all present.

        One proposes as 2. Secretary: Bob Bostrom. He accepts the election.

        Result of the voting: unanimously

        The delegates agree to elect no 3. secretary.

        Unanimously

        10.6 Cash auditors

        Are proposed: Mrs. Christine Heide and Jan van de Belt. Both accept the election.

        Result of the voting: unanimously

    10.7 Editor " Barry International "

        The " Barry International " is the official magazine of the WUSB since two years. In the statutes is written down that the editor has to be chosen by the delegates.

        One proposes. Jan van de Belt. He accepts the election.

        Result of the voting: unanimously

    11. Piece of information of the Italian club about the WUSB-Schau 2000

    Dr. Morsiani informs the delegates about the preparations for the WUSB-Schau. He reports that for both shows, forum and WUSB, altogether 322 dogs had been entered, from it for the WUSB 178. The dogs come from England (for the first time), Portugal, Spain, France, Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Yugoslavia, Hungaries, Denmark, Finland, Australia, Italy and Norway. The programs were translated in five languages.

    He speaks about the problems of the 2. Judge in the ring and would like, that this topic will be dealed in the WUSB once again.

    The Dutch judge Freddy DE Meyer has sickened suddenly and has canceled by phone two days ago. Another problem is Karoly Kozma from Hungaries. That Ungarische Kennel-Club has told that he is still no international judge but can judge only national shows.

    One should talk about these problems at a later time again.

    12. Short-piece of information of the German club about the WUSB-Schau 2001 and election of 4 judges

    Peter Brieskorn reports to the delegate on the preparations to the WUSB-Schau 2001.

    Simultaneously, the ceremonies take place to the 110-year- jubilee of the German Club.

    Marie-Luise Löhr gives an overview over the organization of the event: 110 years of the Club, Forum- and WUSB-Show. Date is the 25th to 27th of May 2001 in Lichtenfels/Bavaria.

    As arranged, four judges are proposed by the German club:

    1. Rolands Hans - Switzerland -, 2. - Hans Golverdingen - Netherlands -, 3. Julian Hernandez - Spain, 4. Werner Schmid - Germany.

    The written suggestions are announced: Belgium - Paul Baelen, Netherlands - Gerri Vlieghuis, USA - Joan Zielinski. Gerri Vlieghuis cannot be taken unfortunately into account since Hans Golverdingen is already nominated from the Netherlands.

    It is proposed: Paul Baelen - B -, Dr. Otto Schimpf - A -, Danilo Georgio - I -, Gunnel Holm - Finl -, Carl-Otto Mastrup - DK -, Joan Zielinski - USA -.

    For the WUSB-Schau 2001 in Germany are chosen following judges:

1. Rolands Hans Switzerland
2. Hans Golverdingen Netherlands
3. Julian Hernandez Spain
4. Werner Schmid Germany
5. Carl Otto Mastrup Denmark
6. Dr. Otto Schimpf Austria
7. Gunnel Holm Finland
8. Joan Zielinski USA

    Substitute-judges are:

1. Paul Baelen Belgium
2. Dr. Danilo Georgio Italy

    13. Piece of information about the standard-discussion in Switzerland

    Wolfgang Ketzler reports on the discussions and the suggestions of the WUSB over the Swiss club to the FCI. This is alone deciding in the end. With the last draft of the SKG and FCI, the Swiss club was not in agreement. At the moment is valid the standard like until now.

    14. Situation of X-raying in the different countries

    Lause Nielsen reports that they have begun from 01/01/2000 in Denmark with x-raying of hips and elbows.

    Dr. Morsiani tells that the members in the Italian club do x-ray HD and ED. There are still problems with the ENCI. He asks the. President to write an official letter to the ENCI and to ask them to issue not any more papers without x-raying.

    Julian Hernandez says that they started in Spain with the x-raying, but that the problem still lies there also with the Kennel-Club, since it does not go along with it. Also unfortunately only few members are interested in it.

    15. American illustrated commentary of the standard

    The representatives from the USA have brought some copies of the American standard.

    A list, in which interested can still register, is laid out.

    16. Exclusion of the St. Bernard-Clubs New South Wales (Australia) because of not-paid the dues

    The president of the club has stated ready to pay. The delegates formulate following decision: if not within three months at least one installment and until ultimate the year's end the remainder is paid, the club is canceled.

    Unanimously

    17. Nomination of a honorary member

    The Board proposes to nominate Ray Horlings on the basis of his merits in the WUSB as honory-member.

    The delegates lift from their seats and give a farewell to Ray Horlings with big applause. One agrees to the decision.

    Unanimously

    18. Sundries

    No word-news are available.

Wolfgang Ketzler thanks the delegates and guests for the good cooperation and wishes all a beautiful weekend and much success with the show.

(Erika Kalscheuer)

1. Secretary

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Minutes of the judges-meeting on 06/02/2000

in Bagnara di Romagna/Italy

Beginning: 09.30 o'clock - end 12.15 o'clock

Present:

Per Bay Denmark
Peter Brieskorn Germany
Erika Kalscheuer Germany
Günter Prause Germany
Annegret Splinter Germany
Jakob Steiber Germany
Lutz Wassmann Germany
Hans Wiebauer Germany
Reinhold Welsch Germany
Pat Muggleton England
Terry Munro England
Sheila Munro England
Maureen Gwilliam England
Austin Long Doyle Ireland
Ann Long Doyle Ireland
Dr. Giovanni Morsiani Italy
Dr. G. Streparola Italy
J. Cloo de Vries Netherlands
Jan van de Belt Netherlands
Maria Küster Netherlands
MR. Hekman van den Ham Netherlands
M. C. Visser Seltenriych Netherlands
Gerd van Oijen Netherlands
Gabriele Höllbacher Austria
Dr. Martin König Switzerland
Christine Wiederkehr Switzerland
Rolands Hans Switzerland
Christine Rossier Switzerland
Ernst Kientsch Switzerland
Maurus Hügli Switzerland
Charles Cuenaud Switzerland
Julian Hernandez Spain
Otakar Vondrous The Czech Republic
Karoly Kozma Hungaries
Carmello Zappala USA
Beverly Nosiglia USA
Gloria Wallin USA
Gerald Wallin USA
Joan Zielinski USA
Stan Zielinski USA
Robert E. Bostrom USA

Excused absent:

André de Groote, Joseph van Hummelen, Freddy de Meyer, Paul Baelen (B), Kay Klysner, Carl-Otto Mastrup, Kim Nielsen (DK), Hermann Evers (G), Hans Golverdingen, I.,. Onstenk-Schenk, Gerrit Vlieghuis (NL), Dr. Otto Schimpf (A), E. Gutknecht (Ch), Edgar Kindler, Erwin Schmitt (G),

Present guests:

Wolfgang Ketzler- WUSB-President (G1), Romy Prim, Jean Prim- Vice-WUSB-President (L), Cheryl Zappala, Richard Nosiglia (USA), Kari Augestad (Sp), Lesley Byles (GB), Bram Vervoorn (NL), Ray Horlings, Minnie Horlings, Kit Bostrom (USA), Kevin Young (Southafr.), Joszef Marozs, Dr. Istvan Acs (H), Katharina Heiberg (N), Yvonne Bijlsma, Willem Harms, R. van Boven (NL), E. Cuenaud, Peter Schmidlin, Elisabeth Fenz (Ch), Taina Nygard (Fin), Tobias Pross (G2), Marie-Luise Löhr (G1), Lause Nielsen, Inge Lise Opstrup (DK)

    1. Greeting through the WUSB-President Wolfgang Ketzler

    The WUSB-President, Mr. Wolfgang Ketzler, opens the meeting and greets the present judges and guests.

    2. Greeting-word of the Italian president Dr. Giovanni Morsiani

    Dr. Morsiani greets all present judges and guests here in Bagnara di Romagna very heartily. He is happy that so many are arrived and that he has the honor to be able to have the discussions in these rooms. He wishes all a beautiful stay and many interesting meetings.

    Wolfgang Ketzler thanks and reminds in this context at Dr. Antonio Morsiani. It will never be forget that he was co-founder of the WUSB beside Albert de la Rie and other breeders. Since 1967, the WUSB has made a big progress. Actually there are 22 clubs from around the world member in the WUSB. The goals were widened and partially changed. Today, health and character should receive special attention. He appeals to the judges to take these goals beside the beauty into especial account.

    No WUSB-Congress takes place in this year. The forum had made a congress, to which the WUSB was invited. The treated topics are very important also for the WUSB and a benefit for all. Initial irritations with the foundation of the forum are cleared up, because it has appeared, that the work of the four countries has achieved good successes. The forum is not component of the WUSB, but we can profit from the results.

    3. Minutes of the last judges-meeting in Porto

    No one raises an objection against the minutes of the last judges-meeting in Porto/Portugal .

    4. Informations from the member countries

    Bram Vervoorn complains that is also translated today besides German and English into Italian. Dr. Morsiani explains that the translatora are Italians and that they cannot translate directly from German into English or opposite. Julian Hernandez says that it has also advantages for the countries Spain and Portugal.

    Wolfgang Ketzler very definitely explains that the translating is a service, that we should assume with a thank.

    Joan Zielienski says that it is a very beautiful correct matter.

    3. Current stand the standard-discussion

    Wolfgang Ketzler reminds of it that we have written down the points in Porto and they were relayed to the Swiss club to the discussion. He asks Rolands Hans to report on the current stand.

    Roland Hans tells that the Swiss club has put a proposition to the FCI. It shall exist remain like until now for example the size of the St. Bernard and some small alterations in the head.

    Furthermore, there were incongruities because of the color. Switzerland would like that the seven white markings necessarily get remains. The FCI wanted cut the patch on neck, tip of tail and white chest as mistakes. The objection from Switzerland probably becomes accepted.

    Dr. King comments that one cannot separate show and official selection for stud use and that the Swiss club hopes that the FCI accepts the objection.

    Furthermore, there have been differences in the height through wrong measurement. It was not measured at the withers but at the shoulder.

    At the moment the standard is valid like until now without alterations.

    Reinhold Welsch explains that exclusively at the withers and not at the shoulder must be measured since normally also the proportions are correct no longer.

    With the projector, the points were demonstrated on the sreen then.

    Per Bay means, we should finish the discussion for the moment until the new standard is available.

    In this context, Wolfgang Ketzler asks all to make no depreciatory remarks about the FCI-Standard or even to call it a "bastard ". He emphasizes that we are open for all discussions.

    6. American " Illustrated Commentary to the Standard "

    Wolfgang Ketzler had asked Bob Bostrom to bring some copies so that we can see how the Americans do interpret their standard. He emphasizes however again that we don't recognize the American standard. The brochure to the American Standard is done very good. The WUSB-members have the possibility to have sent this brochure to itself.

    7. Lecture by Per Bay, Peter Brieskorn and Dr. Giovanni Morsiani

    A very interesting lecture followed over the static aspects with the St. Bernard. The details were explained very interestingly at various pictures.

    Wolfgang Ketzler thanks the speakers for the interesting lecture, closes the judges-meeting and wishes all present a beautiful weekend in Bagnara.

(Erika Kalscheuer)

1. Secretary

 

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